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Post by LadyOfBruma Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:34 am

Due to my old journal being confiscated, I'll have to start again from the beginning.

My experiments strengthening the bonds between myself and those I summon or raise from the dead have been progressing, but only marginally. The bonds are always present, but typically fade away over time, requiring ever greater power and concentration by the summoner to enforce the spell's power.

The purpose of my research has been to determine if there is perhaps more to be gleaned from this. After all, while the lesser daedra might be easilly summoned by a mage who knows not only the spell, but the will and concetration of mana to enforce it. But when we summon the greater daedra, the princes who rule over their sphere's of influence, it is we who must sacrifice in order to draw their attention, and it is we who must serve them in order to gain any sort of boon.

To which I ask, why? What makes the princes fundamentally different? Is it simply a matter of power, that few, if any, mortals possess the ability to bend the will of the Princes? Or is there a defense mechanism set up to prevent us from being able to utilize our abilities against the Princes in such a way, either by them, or by others? If so, why? Likely due to the consequences of binding a god to a chain.

Still, finding the answer has been an effort of mine for the last five years. With the loss of my previous notes, I'll use this journal to start again from scratch. With a great deal of luck, and dilligent research, we may find the answers in my lifetime.
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Post by Arla Neerus Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:10 am

You shouldn't be messing with the Daedra lady.
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Post by Alicia Jornali Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:04 am

Miss... whoever you are.

First, congratulations on finding another one of these linked books.

Second, summoning daedra is not a good career choice if you want to remain in the land of the living. Conjured minions are useful, yes, but you are messing with things much, much more powerful than you can even imagine. And they don't take kindly to being messed with.

So I'd highly recommend not messing with them, least you get smote by a bolt of daedric retribution.
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Post by LadyOfBruma Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:07 am

...

Thats not my handwriting.

Are my eyes decieving me, or is there some kind of magicka at play here?

And for the record, I've been practicng conjuration for over 9 years. I know the risks involved.
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Post by Alicia Jornali Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:11 am

Oh, and by the way, don't try to destroy the book. It will lash out at you. Violently.
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Post by Jalum-Ek Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:13 am

Congratulations; you've a book created from the magic of the daedra. Anything you write is transmitted to all the other books like yours.

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Post by Kennek-Getha of Iblan Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:24 am

Sup.

Damn you look fine. You know, for a mammal and all.

Ever had Nord mead before? Best damned drink in all of Cyrodil.
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Post by LadyOfBruma Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:33 am

Really.

....

There is a quantifiable presence of magic here. I can feel the tiniest threads connecting the tome to others. As I write this, it expels mana along these threads, presumably to their destination.

Fascinating. Well, I'll have to find a new journal for my research then.

...And apparently it can show my representation to others. And vice versa. I'll have to experiment on this.

As for the mead, yes, I've tried it. It ranges from the sweet to sickly sweet, depending who manufactures it. Are you a brewer of some kind?

Actually, who are you people? I am Lady Amara Caliste, of Bruma.

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Post by Kennek-Getha of Iblan Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:36 am

Kennek-Getha of Iblan. Apparently it means "Smashes-Much-Stone" I guess according to one of my more beautiful and knowledgeable Argonian friends. I always thought it was some nickname.

Born in Black Marsh, raised in Skyrim, and I'm perfectly happy about livin' a Nord way of life.
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Post by LadyOfBruma Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:29 pm

Interesting. I am heading north into Skyrim from Bruma. Where exactly are you?
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Post by Amator Bellum Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:33 pm

HELLO

I AM VERNUS REX ALSO FROM CYRODEL

ALSO I ALSO THOT THIS WAS A DIARY

BUT I DONNOT LIKE DADRA THAT CAN BE ALL YOU
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Post by LadyOfBruma Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:39 pm

I don't exactly like them either, though a few can be fascinating conversationalists when they're not trying to kill you.
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Post by Amator Bellum Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:40 pm

I HALF NEVER TAUKED TO WON

I HERD THEY WARE MANNIPOLATEVE AND I DON WANT THAT
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Post by Seeks-Many-Secrets Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:48 pm

I am Seeks-Many-Secrets. And what manner of Daedra are you attempting to summon? It is very important.
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Post by LadyOfBruma Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:54 pm

Its spelled as, "Manipulative"

And, you're absolutely correct. Typically, any daedra will not hesitate to use a mortal for their own designs, even if that leads to their death. Hence, why I always take precautions with my research...

And even then, that does not always work.

As for the kind I summon, I've not really limited myself, and can summon more powerful, sapient daedra. I take the most precautions with them for my experiments. I am trying to improve the greater understanding of conjuration, and summon beings that are higher on the hierarchy, but with minimal success due to a lack of resources required and required spells.

Why do you ask?
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Post by Seeks-Many-Secrets Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:00 pm

I was making sure that you were not summoning Princes. Nothing good will follow. I promise you.
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Post by LadyOfBruma Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:14 pm

Well, not yet.

The pinnacle of my ambitions would be to discern a way to summon a prince without submitting to their need for sacrifices. Which, according to many, is impossible. I am not so certain.
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Post by Azim Dekshari Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:22 pm

LadyOfBruma wrote:Well, not yet.

The pinnacle of my ambitions would be to discern a way to summon a prince without submitting to their need for sacrifices. Which, according to many, is impossible. I am not so certain.
Why would you want to? The Daedric Princes have their areas, and we have ours. It works best for everyone when no one goes to anyone else's area.
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Post by LadyOfBruma Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:27 pm

True enough. But I don't seek this knowledge for the purposes of recreating another Oblivion crisis. Simply knowing for the sake of knowing is enough for me.
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Post by Alicia Jornali Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:28 pm

LadyOfBruma wrote:Well, not yet.

The pinnacle of my ambitions would be to discern a way to summon a prince without submitting to their need for sacrifices. Which, according to many, is impossible. I am not so certain.
As my conjurer friend would say, this can't end well.
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Post by Seeks-Many-Secrets Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:53 pm

LadyOfBruma wrote:True enough. But I don't seek this knowledge for the purposes of recreating another Oblivion crisis. Simply knowing for the sake of knowing is enough for me.
I care not what you're trying to do. You cannot control a Prince. And that Prince will unleash a wave of suffering upon Nirn not seen for 200 years. Mankar Camoran had centuries of experience in conjuration, and look at what happened during the Oblivion Crisis.
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Post by LadyOfBruma Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:08 pm

The difference being that Camoran was a Dagonite fanatic who openly desired that kind of death and destruction. I am nothing of the sort.

I would only commit such a summoning in any event if I had

A: Experimented a great deal on my work, and had evidence to support my hypothesis on its nature.

B: Had at least twenty other Conjurers of advanced skill agree that it was possible based on the evidence I provided.

C: Had a supporting army of fellow casters at my back if banishment proved neccessary.

E: Have the summoning occur far from any civillization.

In other words, I have a better chance of dropping a scroll down White Gold Tower, with the scroll falling straight down with no wind interference.

But, I will continue to research and study, because that is my passion.
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Post by Amelin Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:32 pm

If you wish to dabble in Daedric affairs, it is not my place to judge. So long as it doesn't affect my sake.

That said, if this turns out badly, don't say we didn't warn you.
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Post by LadyOfBruma Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:48 pm

Duly noted.
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Post by Azim Dekshari Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:53 pm

LadyOfBruma wrote:
But, I will continue to research and study, because that is my passion.
Passion for such a topic may come at a price. But, that is neither here nor there.

I assume you have visited the actual shrines of the Daedric Princes?
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