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Post by Azim Dekshari Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:39 pm

Has anyone put any serious thought into studying these? Replicating them? Anything similar? I mean, we sit here and write random, unimportant things on the ledgers, but... I don't know. I just think that we should consider finding out just what these are, and how many of them there are.
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Post by Kestrel Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:43 pm

I dont mess it magik. It mite end badly.
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Post by Seeks-Many-Secrets Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:48 pm

Yes, a man called Vladmir. I don't reccommend it, though. Daedric magic is not to be trifled with.
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Post by Alicia Jornali Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:50 pm

Considering how these tomes react violently to any attempt to destroy them, my guess is that creating copies will require more work than disenchanting them and rendering that enchantment onto another book.

Though it would be quite useful to find a way to manipulate them a little more... finely. Perhaps a way of writing a message that only appears in two books, a 'private entry' of sorts? Just throwing ideas out there.
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Post by Kennek-Getha of Iblan Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:56 pm

Ok so this seems like a thread that'd be helpful for me to put this down.

You don't need ink to write in these tomes. Yeah, crazy I know, but an hour ago I wrote down something in the journal and forgot to dip my quill in any ink - it wrote stuff down anyway.

This is pretty awesome.
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Post by Azim Dekshari Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:57 pm

Alicia Jornali wrote:Considering how these tomes react violently to any attempt to destroy them, my guess is that creating copies will require more work than disenchanting them and rendering that enchantment onto another book.

Though it would be quite useful to find a way to manipulate them a little more... finely. Perhaps a way of writing a message that only appears in two books, a 'private entry' of sorts? Just throwing ideas out there.
But, we have no way to do any of these things without study and experimentation. I mean, I'm the last person to trust magic (far too random, unpredictable), but this is definitely something that deserves research.

Kestrel wrote:I dont mess it magik. It mite end badly.
You're weighing the risk over the reward. Think about it - you're already at risk for simply writing on the things. I'm sure a little experimentation couldn't be THAT bad.

Seeks-Many-Secrets wrote:Yes, a man called Vladmir. I don't reccommend it, though. Daedric magic is not to be trifled with.
Are we sure this is Daedric magic, though? This could be some Dwemer lost science or Synod magical experiment. We are treating these tomes too casually. And, is this Vladmir still here?

Edit: That's an interesting development. Do you even need a quill, then?
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Post by Arla Neerus Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:06 pm

Idea! Can you tear out a page and write on it?
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Post by Seeks-Many-Secrets Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:10 pm

Try it out, tell us how it goes for you.
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Post by Kestrel Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:12 pm

Arla Neerus wrote:Idea! Can you tear out a page and write on it?

No. Nightshade has been helping me with my speling on pages torn from his. They loose thier enchantment.
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Post by Kennek-Getha of Iblan Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:13 pm

hey you don't need ink to write just saying that's really fuckin' handy
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Post by Azim Dekshari Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:15 pm

Kennek-Getha of Iblan wrote:hey you don't need ink to write just saying that's really fuckin' handy
Yes, so I read from you. You don't need a quill at all, then? Could you use your...claw, is it?... to write, as opposed to a quill?
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Post by Ineri Mencele Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:17 pm

dane wite fingars

WOW that is sloppy writting.
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Post by Kennek-Getha of Iblan Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:20 pm

I'd still recommend using a quill. It's what the book recognizes as something folks write with, so other methods of doing it are sloppier I guess?

Tried with my claws, and. Well. It shocked me a bit. This thing is fucking vindictive.
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Post by Ineri Mencele Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:22 pm

Odd, took my nails fine. It could be your claws are thought to be a weapon?

I'm going to try writing the next sentence with a knife.

Tes___________T

OW! Fucking thing really shocked me.
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Post by Azim Dekshari Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:26 pm

Now we're making progress. Not having to use ink is a major boon.
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Post by Nightshade Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:35 pm

Oddly enough, you can also write in all sorts of different ways in these tomes just by thinking of it. Changing the color of your words and even manipulating your handwriting.

Like this.
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Post by Calith Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:59 pm

Nightshade wrote:Oddly enough, you can also write in all sorts of different ways in these tomes just by thinking of it. Changing the color of your words and even manipulating your handwriting.

Like this.

Talos' balls! you mean these glorified diaries are reading our thoughts?
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Post by Nightshade Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:44 pm

To an extent, yes.
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Post by Calith Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:03 pm

Nightshade wrote:To an extent, yes.

Time to be rid of this thing then, there's no way in oblivion that some daedric book is going to be probing my mind.
They might be durbable but I can't imagine one can come back from a mammoth stepping on it.
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Post by Nightshade Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:11 pm

You really want to announce your intentions to destroy the book IN the book? I don't know if these things can understand such thoughts or such, but it might pre-emptively try to kill you.
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Post by Ineri Mencele Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:26 pm

Why would being stepped on by a mammoth do anything to it? Find some spell-slinger to set it on fire.
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Post by Amator Bellum Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:29 pm

BUT IF YOU GET RID OF YOUR BOOK WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU AND THEN WHAT'S THE POINT WHAT WILL YOU HAVE GAINED
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Post by Ineri Mencele Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:41 pm

And what if it destroys our books, you selfish asshole?
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Post by Calith Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:47 pm

Amator Bellum wrote:BUT IF YOU GET RID OF YOUR BOOK WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU AND THEN WHAT'S THE POINT WHAT WILL YOU HAVE GAINED

Some privacy. And assurance that some servant of Hermaeus Mora isn't using it to see what I know.

Besides, if it truly can read thoughts then it would have known I planned to be rid of it from the moment I read Nightshade's discovery. If nothing else it might be a useful test to know just how much they can learn of the ones carrying them.
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Post by Amator Bellum Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:57 pm

IT DON'T READ MY THOUGHTS
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